volvooceanrace

[kekeck]

BABE so DECE nabile
Pa saj jim privoščim.

[kekeck]

Navigator Vestas Winda ODPUŠČEN.

Torej je ena glava odletela. Vbistvu je navigator odgovoren za nasedanje.

[james.7]

http://vimeo.com/115156018

interviju z navigatorjem...

[Marchi]

Nič ni povedal, zakaj je spregledal reef na kartah. To je ključno vprašanje iz katerega se lahko še kdo kaj nauči.

[H2O]

Nisem zaspal, majkemi

[Marchi]

Ne, saj je spal, ker ni bila njegova izmena ali nekaj podobnega. Samo, kje pa je back up? A skipper vozi na pamet, ker je navigator rekel, da je pred njimi vse čisto in šel spat za dve uri.
Ob pogledu na karte ne zaupam še samemu sebi, kaj šele, da bi se zanesel na nekoga drugega in zato ves čas preverjam položaj in karte.
Verjetno je tudi utrujenost naredila svoje in je koncentracija popustila, kar se v tako vrhunskih ekipah, kot jo opisuje, ne bi smelo zgoditi. V letalstvu bi taka napaka pomenila smrt za posadko in potnike.
Ne bom pisal naprej, ker bi bil preoster, ker se mi tile dadyboys with dadytoys sploh ne smilijo, ker "sve plaća sponzor" in ja "če vedo kako dober sem, me bodo reaktivirali na novi barki, ki jo že gradijo" (da jim dokažejo, kako radi se vozakajo na others money igračkah). Disneyland!!!

[H2O]

Verjetno je tudi utrujenost naredila svoje in je koncentracija popustila, kar se v tako vrhunskih ekipah, kot jo opisuje, ne bi smelo zgoditi.

So pač samo ljudje. Nikogar nočem zagovarjat, ampak nočem jim pa tudi delat krivice.

[ljubo]

Dejstvo je, da je koncentracija padla in seveda tudi utrujenost. Pa se zgodi nihče ni popoln.
No danes zjutraj pa je Donfeng imela težave s prednjim jadrom.

[Lure]

Pomoje klasicen "assumption is mother of all fuck-ups".
Nekaj zbranih pogledov tudi iz ostalih bark je tukaj:
http://blog.geogarage.com/2014/12/quest ... -race.html

[Marchi]

Pomoje klasicen "assumption is mother of all fuck-ups".
Nekaj zbranih pogledov tudi iz ostalih bark je tukaj:
http://blog.geogarage.com/2014/12/quest ... -race.html

Zanimivo branje, hvala za link!

Če prav razumem je eden od "krivcev" to, da se izdelovalci elektorniskih kart (komercialni) ne držijo priporočil o tem, kakšne informacije naj bi vsebovale karte v posameznih merilih (tabela spodaj). Poleg tega so programi, ki jih uporabljajo posadke na Volvo ocean reace (Expedition, Adrena or B&G Deckman for Windows), prvenstveno weather routing programi in jim je kopno "deseta briga".

3 navigation software used in the Volvo Ocean Race (Expedition, Adrena or B&G Deckman for Windows) are ECS dedicated at first to weather routing, each using commercial electronic charts (C-Map MAX in this case, but are not compatible with raster ARCS from UKHO) and not ECDIS systems (with ENC charts) fulfilling the requirement under SOLAS regulation so they can not be used to replace official paper nautical charts which are available onboard (Use of private produced charts is not officially approved for navigation).



http://blog.geogarage.com/2014/12/quest ... ts-in.html

Torej kažejo se širše razsežnosti problema. Upam, da se uspejo kartografi kmalu poenotiti in prevzeti odgovornost za karte, ki jih zdelujejo in prodajajo.
Ker eno je, če skiper spregleda otok na zemljevidu, drugo in toliko hujše pa je, če tega otoka na zemljevidu ni ali pa je samo na enem od meril karte, ne pa na vseh.

[Grega295]

Tukaj ni šlo za skupinsko napako, ampak zgolj za nesrečno napako navigatorja:

The cause of the accident has been pretty clearly identified. The Cargados Carajos Shoals were in an exclusion zone that was opened to the fleet the night before they started leg 2 of the race out of Cape Town. Vestas navigator Wouter Verbraak (see image up top) wasn't aware that the shoals were directly on the route north to Abu Dhabi, didn't have time to fully scope out the new track before the start, and assumed he'd be able to do so while racing the leg. In the end he never zoomed in close enough on his electronic chart to see the shoals, and the crew sailed right on to the reef at night having no idea it was there.

This obviously was a stupid mistake, and Verbraak, to his credit, has openly confessed to it.

I made a big mistake, but then we didn’t make any others even though there were many difficult decision to be made and the situation was very challenging and grave indeed.

Once I can get power to the boats laptops (if they survived) I can look further into how we didn’t see the reef on the electronic charts. I did check the area on the electronic chart before putting my head down for a rest after a very long day negotiating the tropical storm and what I saw was depths of 42 and 80m indicated. There is a very good article posted on http://blog.geogarage.com/2014/12/quest ... -race.html.

I can assure you that before every leg we diligently look at our route before we leave and I use both Google Earth, paper charts and other tools. However, our planned route changed just before we left, and with the focus on the start and the tricky conditions, I erroneously thought I would have enough information with me to look at the changes in our route as we went along. I was wrong. I am not trying to make any excuses – just trying to offer up some form of explanation and answer to some of your questions.

Na posnetku je vidno, da so v sekundah prej vsaj trije gledali v smer grebena; zelo verjetno so slišali valove:
http://youtu.be/1gmnWEZCEiw

Vsako slabo pa je za nekaj dobrega; nihče ni bil poškodovan, nasedanje Vestas-a pa je poželo skoraj več pozornosti kot cel preostali VOR skupaj. In glavni namen VOR-a ni jadranje, ampak reklama

[ljubo]

Del zanimive etape. Ponoči plut blizu obale med ribiškimi barkami.

http://www.volvooceanrace.com/en/video/ ... ow-Em.html

[Marchi]

Kar lepo so jo pofrzenkal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1 ... detailpage

[ljubo]

Ja na koncu so jo vsi dobro odnesli. Kar je najbolj važno. Sedaj bo pa res zanimivo, kako jo bojo obnovili.

[al]

Železno bi morali imeti pa bi bilo vse ok.
Ok, malo bi zaostali (kakšen mesec ali dva) ampak ok